An earlier aircraft's wing design directly led to Bill Lear's Lear 23 diminutive executive jet that he designed. The earlier aircraft had the identical wing root airfoil and the similar basic wing tip airfoil.

1a. Manufacturer name of the earlier aircraft? 1b. Model nomenclature of the earlier aircraft?

2. Earlier aircraft prototype initial flight date?

3. Powerplant of the earlier aircraft?

4a. Name a one word characteristic of the wing airfoil; 4b. What did that characteristic limit? 4c. How did Lear overcome this in his Learjet designs?

I enjoy making up these aviation brain teasers, and appreciate all who try for the right answers.

I'll try this

1a. FFA Switzerland 1b P-16

2. 25th April 1955

3. Prototype; Armstrong Siddeley ASSa 6 Sapphire Turbojet.

Pre-producton model: ASSa 7 Sapphire Turbojet

4. Thin

5. No fuel could be carried internally therefore had to have permanent wingtip fuel tanks.

6. Some thickening of the wing to enable some fuel to be carried internally.

Well Rob, you basically nailed it-Congratulations! I have just a couple of slightly different answers. As both referred-to aircraft in the quiz have the identical wing airfoils-NACA 64A109 root and 64A109 tip (with the Learjets having a modified 64A109 wingtip only slight difference), I thought the correct answer might come from someone looking at all aircraft with the thin NACA 64A109 airfoils, working backwards from the Learjet clue. Here are my answers.

1a. Flug-und-Fahrzeugwerke A.G. (Aktiengesellschaft) (FFA). 1b. P-16

2. 28 April 1955.

3. Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire A.S.Sa.6 turbojet

4a. Thin. 4b. Fuel could NOT be carried in the thin wing of the P-16 so permanent tip tanks carried fuel. 4c. Bill Lear overcame this in the Lear 23 design first flying in 1963 with internal fuselage fuel and permanent tip tanks which became a signature symbol of all Lear jets. There were some early Lear 23 production wing variables: the twentieth and subsequent aircraft had a new wing with MILLED skins but still NACA 64A109 airfoils, tip section NACA 64A109 (mod). These Lear jet aircraft carried fuselage fuel and fuel in permanent wing tip tanks.

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The Swiss state manufacturer FFA designed the jet-powered P-16 to replace various piston-engine ground-attack aircraft in a 1952 government contract to meet rigid Swiss conditions of short alpine runways. First FFA prototype was P-16.04 flying on 28 April 1955. It later crashed into Lake Constance after failure of a small component. Four pre-series P-16s were ordered, and subsequently-100 production aircraft. The third prototype also crashed into Lake Constance. At that point, the production order was cancelled by the conservative Swiss government. FFA however, flew two P-16s under civil registration in 1959 and 1960, but that did not result in any orders, so the P-16 never entered military service. The fifth P-16 went to the Swiss Air Force Museum at Dubendorf.

The P-16 had strengthened retractable tri-gear with dual wheel main gear for rough field operations. It could operate from airstrips only 1,620 feet long. The wings were not swept and of high aspect ratio for both high subsonic cruise and low landing speeds. These qualities carried over to the Lear designs of small executive jets.

Specs and performance

Powerplant: one Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire A.S.Sa.6 Sapphire turbojet of 7,900 lb thrust

Crew: One

Wingspan: 36'7"

Length: 46'11"

Height: 13'11"

Weight: 25,838 lb

Max speed: 620 mph

Max altitude: 50,000'

Thanks Doug.

Regarding the aerofoils my sources show the P-16 with NACA 63A109A and the Learjet with NACA 64A109 though this maybe incorrect.

As a matter of interest, after the P-16 was rejected by the Swiss Air Force, they evaluated the Folland Gnat, F86 Sabre and the Hawker Hunter. They plumped for the latter to replace their De Havilland Vampires. The Hunters had a very long service life with the Swiss AF, starting in April 1958 with the last one retiring in 1994.

Thank you Rob,

My standard for airfoil research is The Incomplete Guide to Airfoil Usage at http://m-selig.ae.illinois.edu/ads/aircraft.html

That is an old link, but just tested OK now; I just go to my old bookmark for it, but it will work from the link given here. Aircraft airfoils are listed by aircraft make/model alphabetically. Look at FFA. P-16 is there.

David Lednicer

Aeromechanical Solutions LLC

15219 NE 71st Court

Redmond, WA 98052

Email dave@lednicer.com

Dave is listed as the contact/compiler, I assume, but m-selig may have taken it over? My bookmark is old but still brings up the site, which I use frequently.

Doug