STEALING PHOTOS!!!????????

I hope that I do not have to remove all of my works from airportdata.com or other sites, as I like for people to enjoy the works, and as far as I know, NO ONE from the core group of loyal airportdata.com submitters has ever taken works from each other without permission.

This was the most positive part about AD.com. Everyone here has a great deal of respect for each other.

It is too bad that one son of a bitch decided to try and screw it all up

I guess that AD operators may have to design the website that will prevent the saving of a photograph by right clicking. This is being done on all of the photo websites now, and it is for this very reason.

It is just a shame....as cclambert07 could have asked, and if he/she had left my copyright notice intact, I would not have lost any sleep over their posting it to another webiste !

John L.

JohnLittle

Better look this clown over again at FlightAware.....I just found 6 more of my photos with cclambert07 claiming ownership.

I have copyrights on every photo I take that I post, and I think we are going to have to teach this A$$ a lesson in manners, and not stealing other peoples property.

John

Bluedharma

Better look this clown over again at FlightAware.....I just found 6 more of my photos with cclambert07 claiming ownership.

I have copyrights on every photo I take that I post, and I think we are going to have to teach this A$$ a lesson in manners, and not stealing other peoples property.

John

John,

I am going to have to agree with you!

Like John, I am willing to share my photos, as long as credit is provided, and I know where they are (in case someone wants to take them "off-line").

This is 100%

WRONG

I love airport-data.com and I do not blame this site for this problem.

My photos are here to share with airport-data.com users and the pilots who fly these fine aircraft.

The FlightAware staff had better be taking action soon.

http://discussions.flightaware.com/viewtopic.php?p=64549#64549

Best Regards,

GlennE.Chatfield

I guess none of my photos are good enough to steal!

Bluedharma

I guess none of my photos are good enough to steal!

No, your photos are good enough to steal.

Your shots are great.

I don't know why he didn't take any.

He took more of Johns photos than mine.

Also he took Dean Ingemanson N48SE

5446848670511405afa50ba4251c1b90ca4a4b4b;user=cclambert07;o=17'>http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-

5446848670511405afa50ba4251c1b90ca4a4b4b;user=cclambert07;o=17

and I think some of Steve Nations shots.

Felix-PRPS

Hello ppl... im new here and i'm starting my database here too... I have this situation but mine was inverse... A guy called Joey get all my helicopter pictures at Airliners.net and he posted them here. I get in contact with the A-D.com adiminstration and they rapidly removed all the photos. After this situation all my photos have Watermark...

Is possible that Airport-Data.com add the Watermark option to protect our photos from this guys...?? This page offers a nice tool to create your own database. It's perfect for the spotters like me since keep all my job organized on internet and also I contribute with the web page. A watermark would be really nice hope the administratio have this feature in mind.

Thanks for all and happy spotting!!

Felix Bahamonde

Ken Wang

Hi Guys,

I am in shock to discover the situation. I have shot an email to our cclamber07 to clearify if they are same person.

I will also contact FlightAware administrators to get this issue cleared. I have no doubt that they will co-operate without any delay.

Meanwhile, thanks for the suggestion on preventing stealing photos from this site. I will implement some measures ASAP.

Ken

DougRobertson

Ken, this theft of copyrighted photos HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. I received email about this quite a while back. Other aircraft photo sites are also involved as acceptors of stolen copyrighted photos from this site of yours. The other sites always removed the photos when advised of the problem, apparently. I asked the email sender to make it your problem as well, because it reflects badly on your site. Finally, the egregiousness of the thefts involving many photographers should bring about justice. Kick the culprit off the site and ban the individual's computer URL so that this doesn't resurface with another alias. No pardon, no forgiveness. I thank Paul for calling my attention to the theft of one of my photos of N5828S in most recent (today) private email.

You will recall a Forum entry with theft of my photo of a Cessna 182 with unusual color scheme without permission to use-that Forum was moderated by cclamber07, who did nothing absolutely about it. Perhaps now we all can understand why. Birds of a feather flock together!

Now, all these other Forum entries with the evidence should finally bring about the downfall of the thief. Copyright law is under US Code 17. Theft is under US Code 18. Theft of intellectual property is a felony crime, upheld in many court cases.

DougRobertson

This is not only copyright violation of aircraft photos, verbal descriptions have been "lifted" as well. This could be considered a violation as well. I have reviewed my past emails received about this, and my original Forum post about the problem. Ken, you apparently did not see or read that.

Ken Wang

Doug,

What's the URL of your original post regarding photo theft? I might missed it.

Ken

Ken Wang

To All,

I have added some small script to prevent right-click on photo images, a tiny step towards anti-theft.

Photo watermark will be next, it may take a while. Personally I don't like watermarks, that's why I didn't do anything while one of our members (Daniel Compton) suggested a while ago. Now it seems I don't have a choice.

Ken

DougRobertson

Ken, the URL is http://airport-data.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=834 It is under Photography dated 8 October 2008 as I recal.

Dougl

Ken Wang

I did read that. As I said in last post, I don't like watermarks, and didn't expect the issue escalate to this level, so I didn't do anything.

Bluedharma

Ken,

I am very sorry to stir up the hornets nest here...

I too dislike "watermarks".

I am just as much shocked as you to discover this situation. I love airport-data.com. I look at the photos of others daily.

It is a shock that someone who loves aircraft as much as I do would just post the images without regard on another website.

"Most" of us would have said ok if the Copyright was on the shot.

I just don't understand why it was done...

John and Doug and others are correct. And I thank you for taking action.

I am just sorry that it has come to this.

Best Regards,

Ken Wang

I did some more research, and found these photos:

Photo from cclamber07:

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/144847.html

Photo from cclambert07:

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/photo/176456-2e44bf3dae4b18b21be0db017d445a7fdce51976;size=full;tail=N1SN;o=0

Both photos are 640x425 before copyright tag, and the photos are exactly the same. Which means both users have access to same original photo. I think it's pretty safe to conclude that cclamber07 on airport-data.com and cclambert07 on flightaware.com are same person.

DougRobertson

For Paul, Don't ever rue bringing up problems here that may affect us all. You have brought the thorny issue to a head, and for that I commend you.

For Ken, Thanks for your detective work-several of us independently concluded the same.

GlennE.Chatfield

Bummer. The right click disable is going to kill me. I had downloade all my shots used for aircraft recognition back to the a/c recog folder because that way I had copyright on them. It finally dawned on me that I could have a larger version to fill the screen so I have just been working on that, copying them back in large version. I'm about 2/3 done. After downloading to A-D I got rid of the originals because I don't collect civil planes. So now I have about 1/3 still small. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I really would not like to see watermarks. They always bother me when I'm looking at photos and I think they really detract from the photo.

Ztex

Glen,

Have you tried the new download button? It will give you your originally uploaded file.

Ken thanks for your work on this issue. I have not found any of my photos in the offending pile...They may be out there somewhere who knows.

If you do watermarks try to make them optional with optional placement, much like airliners.net does. I don't care for them much either but if it will protect us...

Thanks,

Zane